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Actual working hours
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Stefanie has attended:
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Actual working hours
OK- I HATE PROJECT!
As it happens I wanna have a really easy Masterproject with all our current projects in. But we're not planning - we just write in the actual hours we worked.
1) How do I input overtime when my colleague worked insted of the ordinary 7 hours Standart-Calendar 10 hours?
2) Why does the hours time change? I input yesterday 3 hours in the Task Usage view and when I opened the project this morning it was 2.84 or something like that - but not what I entered.
Maybe I should mention that I don't have a baseline (don't ask) as we really just enter what we did on which project in what time!
Thanks a lot
Stefanie
RE: actual working hours
Hi Stefanie
Thank you for your question
To enter additional hours worked the best bet is simply to type the hours worked into the relevant task in the resource usage view. Before you do this however you should change the task type so that it is of fixed duration, and remove effort driven scheduling. Thus when you enter the extra hours it will automatically increase the percentage of the resource being used. You might also want to alter the resource's availability for that time in the resource properties sheet, although this is only necessary if you don't want the resource to be over allocated.
As to your second problem, I am a little confused. If you entered 3 hours into the task usage view this means you are entering 3 hours of work. When you reopened the project where was the figure of 2.84. If in the task usage view then it is most likely that one of the other task parameters (duration or Units of resource) has changed. It is difficult to say any more without seeing the project
If it helps you could email me the file at stephen@stl-training.co.uk and I can take a look for you
Regards
Stephen
RE: actual working hours
Hi Stefanie
Thanks for your question and also the files that you sent me.
The first and most obvious problem is that you have not set your new calendar as the default calendar for your projects or the base calendar for your resource, but you have set it in he calendar tab; as a result you are working 7 hours each day, but your working day is still 8 hours in duration. This alone would cause unexpected results when you allocate resources to tasks and specify hours worked.
I suggest setting your project default calendars to your new calendar by going to project-project information and setting the calendar to your new calendar. Also in your resource sheet set each resources base calendar to your new calendar.
However, as you have already allocated tasks to resources, this change may cause further unexpected results. You might find it easier to rebuild your projects with the calendars correctly set and then in the old files remove any task allocations and then copy and paste them into your new projects. You could then reassign resources to tasks.
As a final point you are using project in a way that it was not designed for, and as a result you may continue to encounter problems going forward
If you have any further problems please do not hesitate to get in touch
Regards
Stephen
RE: actual working hours
Thanks a lot Stephen!
I know I'm not using it right.
I have the problem that the project plan is not right+ People are overallocated in the plan (sometimes by 800%) , tasks get started but then something happens and everbody starts working on another task to get it done.
I'm also afraid people don't know how to use it and screw it up when I got ot right once.
The Tracking part is most important thing for me to do but how can I do that with a wrong plan to begin with? And I can't even fix the plan.
Any suggestions how I can do my work (tracking part) without depending on my colleagues to provide a good baseline?
Thanks sooooo much Stephen!
RE: actual working hours
Hi Stefanie
Can you just confirm a few points for me?
1. Am I right in thinking that you are just using project o record what is actually being carried out?
2. Are tasks created in the Gantt chart as they happen, or do you build the tasks ahead of time?
3. What sort of information do you want out of this process? For example do you need actual cost information and resource loading?
4. Are you using this as a tools to plan what people will be doing on a day by day basis?
Thanks
Stephen
RE: actual working hours
Hi Stephen!
1) We have a plan for the whole year with all our projects in and I tried to track what we have actually done. Which was not working. Everything jumped and I didn't know what they creater klicked and ticked and that was just a mess.
So I thought we can use that version for the project managers for their planning and I create a complete new masterproject with all our projecttasks and resourses but without start time. I will just put a time in there if somebody actually worked on a task. That's basically a yes.
2) I'm currently not building anything. I just put the tasks in without any kind of planning and wait that somebody tells me: I was working 6 hours on 1.5.3. I input that via Task Usage.
3) I wanna see how much time we really spent on which task. I wanna print out telling me which resourse did how much, how long did the project need all together. What the estimate was is not my problem (not yet).
4) Nope- no planning!
Thanks
Stefanie
RE: actual working hours
Hi Stefanie
There are two different things here. There is the duration of the task and also the amount of work carried out. For example a task might take 2 days to complete from start to finish, but the person allocated to it might only have actually spent 8 hours working on the task.(e.g. they just worked on it on the morning of the first day and the afternoon of the second).You will need to enter these two pieces of information separately.
To do this effectively I suggest the following
1. Enter the duration in the Gantt chart
2. Enter the hours worked by each resource in resource usage
3. Before you do this set the task type to fixed duration and remove effort driven scheduling. This should prevent any changes to the duration as a result of changes in work.
Hope this helps
Regards
Stephen
Wed 25 Mar 2009: Automatically marked as resolved.
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